Danko Jones: Sun Oct 6/02 @ The Zoo with Andrew W.K.
Interview by Angie Valente
www.rockitbay.comThe lion is king of the jungle. This Leo was a soft spoken and polite gentleman, contrary to his astrological sign. An absolute pleasure to talk with, I think we all learned a little something on this day. But, do not be fooled. This lion has a wild and savage streak. His mama raised him for one thing, to get up on stage and sing, and he certainly does belt it out with high levels of vein-popping aggression. The Danko Jones live show cannot be denied, or ignored, and neither should this intellectual fellow. This was definitely one of my favourite interviews to date, and as singer/guitarist Danko himself told us, "The best interview on the tour." He also thought it was thorough and well researched. Well, he can put my boyfriend in the trunk anytime. I agree with Mr. Jones, this interview rocks shit hot.
The first question that we like to ask the bands that we haven't spoken to before is, what is your personal definition of the word music?
Music is just something that's invisible that leads me wherever it goes. I have no real definition for it. It's something that you can't really describe, or at least I can't. It's hard. It's like saying "What is art?" You can't really answer that question in one sentence. What is art? You don't know, I don't know. That's the same thing. What is music? I don't know. We could talk about it for hours and hours.
Who is Danko Jones and how was the decision made that your name would be the band name?
Well, basically Danko Jones is me, and it's also the band, the three of us. We act as a band. There is no hierarchy, but we decided to name it after me because the singer actually gets all the attention anyway. We wanted to cut through alot of the bands that were just named "The... The... The..." and focus on one person.
How did your nickname "The Mango Kid" come about? Is that an alter ego type of thing?
No, I just like everything in mango. Like mango ice cream, dried mango, mangos, everything mango. That's pretty much why.
Did working in a porno store influence your music in any way?
No. No it didn't. The one I worked at wasn't the coolest place, it was really dingy and kind of sleazy.
Are they supposed to be classy?
The new ones are. The new ones are very clean, and everyone wears a tie. It's weird.
In Toronto, that's where you worked?
Yeah, in Toronto.
And you also used to fight with the strippers in the back of...
How'd you know that? Oh, you read that somewhere. Where'd you read that?
I just know!
You did your research.
So, why did you fight with the strippers?
Because they were fuckin' retarded. They were just fucked up girls, really fucked up girls. You have to be pretty fucked up to be stripping in the back of a store, and not at a strip joint. The girls who strip at strip joints, at least they make money so they don't have to strip at the back of a store. These girls were fucked.
So how would they make money, if they were at the back of the store?
Business men come in on their lunch break. I don't know if they do it anymore, but when I was working they did.
Do you ever have any regrets about sharing your MANY love stories (or should we call them relationships gone wrong), with your fans. On the new album, it seems to be a re-occurring theme.
Yeah. I don't have a problem with it. It's kind of funny because I don't really speak about it with my friends, but then I'll record it on a record, and have everybody I don't know listen to it. But on the other hand it's good revenge. It's cathartic in a way because it just gets it out of me and it's therapy in a certain way. There's also a certain amount of revenge because, depending on the situation, depending on the girl, I mean there's a song on the new album, "Love is Unkind" and that's kind of an older song. It was originally written 4 or 5 years ago and it's about a certain girl, and since that time I told her the song was about her and she just had a good laugh about it. We're good friends, but there's other songs about other people now who are not good friends, so. (laughs)
It's a form of venting.
Yeah, with "Love is Unkind," the girl who it's about just rolls her eyes.
If you happen to get married, or are involved in a serious relationship, will you find yourself toning it down a little bit maybe?
No, I don't think so, because I'd only be involved with someone who can handle it. I can't go out with anyone who can't handle whatever it is that I do. I've been in that situation before and it's just trouble, because either they're insecure with themselves or they're jealous and they're insecure, and it pretty much boils down to insecurity. I need to be with someone who's very secure with themselves...
(Danko and Angie bump feet under the table and both say sorry)... and who knows what they want. Nice boots by the way.
Angie: Oh thanks!
That's why you bumped into me, so I could compliment your boots.
Angie: This foot is sprained so I have to be really careful with it. I could barely even zip up the boot because it's so swollen.
That's a very good, quick explanation. It's almost as if she had it prepared.
Angie: Actually I bought a pair of pointed-toe caramel boots with a slender heel for the show tonight.
Very nice, I think I know what boot you're talking about.
Angie: Well walking is a challenge, but I've been working on it.
Why don't you just wear running shoes. You (talking to Ann) have a good pair of running shoes. What are those? Those aren't Adidas?
Ann: Yeah.
They are, they kind of slicked it up.
Angie: I was going to wear runners, but then my pants are too long.
So what?
Angie: It doesn't look good though.
It's fine, you can get away with it.
(Back to business...)
Your live show. What fuels this aggression during your performance?
Just having fun playing, just being able to go out on stage and knowing it's like a privilege to play every night. It's not something we take for granted so, we definitely have fun when we're out there. And I think people can really feel that, it sucks when you don't play. We realize what it means to play live, same with Andrew (W.K.) and everyone in his crew. So, it's a good double bill.
Is Andrew a nice guy?
Yeah. Everyone's wicked, everyone's great. Andrew's a really nice person.
That's cool...You sing alot about "hot and pretty girls" in many of your songs. Is this an obsession of yours or...
I like these questions...
Every guy wants a hot chick, and every girl wants a hot guy right? But I mean...
But I mean what?
I don't know, it's sort of unattainable and superficial in a way.
No it's not. Who's to say what's hot for you.
We're not really supposed to believe that.
But wait a minute. Who's to say what's hot for you. Like, what I consider hot maybe you might not consider, or he might not consider. We always have this joke, well that's why we hang out because, he likes those girls, and I like those girls. That's the advantage of singing and playing music. You can talk about hotness and whatever, and have it mean many different things. Someone who doesn't fit the mold of what is attractive, doesn't necessarily mean that they're not attractive, and for me, I kind of have this unwritten rule that I don't really go out with models. Not because they're too attractive, but a lot of the time it's all just face and I think what really pushes a girl over the edge for me, is something that I don't notice right off the bat. When you look at someone and you've seen them 5 times, 10 times, 25 times and then it's that one time when you see them again and you're like, "Holy fuck, I didn't see that" and that's what really gets me.
Ok.
But I do like hot women that people think are hot too.
So it's a win-win situation either way?!
I think so.
You've had instant success in Europe, as a pose to a more stagnant success here in Canada. Why do you feel that is?
Because I think over there everyone's got a bit more of an open mind. Over here I find that groups are segregated, culturally and ethnically. Culturally, like with pop culture, groups are segregated. For example you can be into baseball, but you can't be into the new Queens of the Stone Age record, you know what I mean? Over there it's like, I'm into soccer and I'm into the Hellacopters, and I like the Hives and I dig sports and I like going to museums. So, there's more of an open mind over there and that bleeds into the kind of music that everybody listens to, and the way festivals are set up over there are a lot different from over here. If you ever see a festival, it's more like a vans warped tour, where it's like every band is pretty much one or two degrees away from each other. Where as over there we played this festival in Denmark where it was like P. Diddy and Erykah Badu one day and on the same day...
Ann: Was that Roskilde?
Yeah, do know that festival?
Yeah.
Have you been there?
Ann: I went to the Hurricane Festival this summer.
In Germany, we were supposed to play that...
But what happened?
We were on some waiting list of bands, so we just said forget it. Hurricane...we played Hurricane the year before and that was with Nelly Furtado, Nickelback, Fear Factory, Xhibit, Papa Roach, Iggy Pop. I could continue, there's so many more. But anyways, over there, there's this kind of artists and this kind of artists put together and everybody goes.
How do you see the Canadian music scene right now, with the bands that are breaking out, or even the business side of it with the record company battles.
I think the Canadian music scene is really really good. Now, what level are you talking about? Are you talking about the level that gets shown on TV, and what gets played on the radio?
The media aspect.
I don't think it's very cool to be quite honest with you. I don't mean to target anyone, but in general, I think it's really kind of Canadian Vs a lot of American bands. And these bands are Creed, Blink 182, the big bands. I just don't think it's all that original. However, on the other level, kind of lower than main stream, there's so many bands. The Weakerthans, Tricky Woo who are now called Soft Canyon, The Smugglers, The Dears, The Aluminati...
Hott Kitty.
Who? Who's Hott Kitty?
Never mind!
You know, there's a lot more bands than what a lot of people are led to believe are, you know, "It."
(Some how, we start talking about Tuuli, and Danko mentions that he knows their bass player Claire. He remembers her working at the Toronto salon La Coupe Bizarre. Then we mention Robin Black.)
Ann: Does Robin still work there (La Coupe Bizarre)?
Angie: Yeah, even though he pretends that he doesn't!
Do you know Robin?
Oh, we know Robin pretty well. We've interviewed those guys a few times.
It's hilarious. I think he tells all his friends in Winnipeg that he quit his day job.
(The tape is stopped a few times, in order to conserve space, and to chat "off the record." So back to the interview.)
Oh, last question. This is the fun one.
All the questions were fun. This is a good interview.
(Awwwwww!)
You think so? It took me a long time to compile and dig up all this information!
You know what? I totally appreciate it when people do that. I hate it when...I did an interview here, in Thunder Bay...
(Let's just say that the interviewer of this interview which Danko is talking about, knew nothing about the band, and his "article" made Danko sound like a moron. Don't worry, we hear ya!)
...I thought all the questions were fun.
Ok ready? Brace yourself!
Blue.
What?
My favourite colour.
No! Why do people always think we're going to ask that? What the hell, who cares?!
Sorry.
Anyways, it's no surprise that Danko Jones likes to look dapper when they perform. How would you describe your style?
Simple.
Simple?
Simple and classic. That's the final question? You built the question up, "This is the fun question...I have to turn off my tape recorder because I don't have too much tape."
(Angie wonders: Is Danko Jones mocking me?)
Are you endorsed by anybody?
We're endorsed by Kappa.
...What?
Nothing, that was a good interview. I liked it.
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