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Post by kevin on May 22, 2003 8:18:24 GMT -5
Ruben beats Clay. Sorry folks, but this is a joke. Big Ruben sang with about as much emotion as Stephen Wright and when he did try to add a little dynamics to the equation he sang flat. The sad part is that in spite of all their talent, the winners seem to end up recording whimpy Britney Spears/'n sync type sons anyway. Shame.
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Post by spunshuga on May 22, 2003 12:47:26 GMT -5
It is sucky that they whole point of American Idol is for the contestants to become pop stars! I think Clay should for sure star in a Broadway musical. He has the voice for it. And Ruben should be an R&B singer. I didn't catch last nights performance, but I love just listening to his, his voice is like a velvet teddy bear - he almost sounds like Luther Vandross!
You want to know something else that's funny? Now, Simon sits up there every week and cuts people down to size (which for the most part he's on the money with a lot of them) yet..he is the producer of Sclub7!!!! How in the world can he sit up there and be ignorant to these hopefuls, when he, himself produced such a horribley talentless band?
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Post by kevin on May 22, 2003 19:50:10 GMT -5
I think the hosts are simply doing the good cop-bad cop thing for the sake of the entertainment value. I agree that Ruben has the pipes fpr a very good soul/gospel career. I'm pleased that the American public made a winner of a someone based on talent instead of looks. The first Idol show was like a beauty contest with Barbie and Ken the winners.
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Post by ryan on May 22, 2003 20:14:26 GMT -5
I happen to think Ruben *shock* deserved to win. And here's why:
Technically, I think Ruben is more proficient than Clay. He pronounces things clearer while singing, he understands different stylings better. He has a beautiful, universal voice that could calm anyone. He is always on pitch and usually sings with much more gravitas than in the finals. Meanwhile, Clay has a bursting Broadway balladeer voice that is nice but grows unbelivably irritating. I want everyone who supported Clay to think about this question: would you rather pop Ruben's soulful, R&B sounds or Clay's outlandish Michael Bolton Broadway sounds in the CD player? If you really want to pick the latter, then more power to you. I know I wouldn't...
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Post by spunshuga on May 22, 2003 21:38:18 GMT -5
I totally agree with u Ryan! Ruben maintained a consistency that not too many others did. And if I had to buy one of their cd's it would be Rubens. It would sound much better in my cd player. But there's no reason to fret for either of them, because they're both getting recording contracts, so everyone can listen to both of them. I didn't watch any of the first AI, but when I heard those 2 finalists sing, I thought that Justin guy had absolutely no talent.
In any case I believe all of these contestants will only have their fifteen minutes of fame. I don't think they will consistently sell records. With the exception of Ruben, just for the simple fact he sounds and awful lot like Luther Vandross and Luther is still selling albums! And maybe Clay will have a staying power in Theatre. I wonder what Miss Frenchie is up to? Now, that gurl had pipes! I don't think they should have eliminated her based on her past of being provocatively dressed on the internet. Look at how pop stars dress in their videos!! They are practically naked!
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Post by kevin on May 23, 2003 11:20:49 GMT -5
But Ruben is NOT aways on pitch. When he sings in the lower register he lacks power which forces him to sing harder. When you oversing, you go flat. His choices of songs are at least partly to blame. I love his voice, but he should have picked songs that showed off his upper range more. I really wasn't all that impressed by any of their selections. Clay blew it when he picked Bridge Over Troubled Water and then missed the perfect opportunity to blow everyone away at the climax of the song. He didn't take advantage and really maximize the last verse and chorus. Too bad, it may have cost him.
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Post by ryan on May 23, 2003 13:42:42 GMT -5
But Ruben is NOT aways on pitch. When he sings in the lower register he lacks power which forces him to sing harder. When you oversing, you go flat. I am very aware of this, I sing too. We all have different voices and as such, he's probably more of a tenor and needs to sing up higher. He rarely went deep into his lower register anyway. From what I could hear, he very, very rarely was out of tune. It is also possible that the times he was a little off-pitch, he was nervous. That happens to the best of us... |
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Post by spunshuga on May 23, 2003 16:36:12 GMT -5
I'm not a singer or a musician, so really I can only say what sounds good to my ears. The only thing I really didn't like about Clay's voice is he couldn't switch it up, he can only sing one style. I felt Ruben did a better job in that area. I really liked when he sung "Sweet Home Alabama". There is an alternate meaning to that song though...is this true?
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Post by rocky on May 23, 2003 17:51:42 GMT -5
We were always under the impression that there was a deep meaning to that famous Lynyrd Skynrd hit song, but to be honest it has escaped me . Perhaps if Kevin sees this, he can enlighten us. Oh, American Idol, I didn't watch it, boo on me I guess.  Here are the lyrics: SWEET HOME ALABAMA Lynyrd Skynrd Big wheels keep on turning, carry me home to see my kin singing songs about the southland. I miss ole bamy once again and I think it's a sin. Well, I heard Mister Young sing about her. Well, I heard ole Neil put her down. Well, I hope Neil Young will remember a southern man don't need him around anyhow. Sweet home Alabama where the skies are so blue. Sweet home Alabama, Lord, I'm coming home to you. In Birmingham they love the Gov'nor. Now we all did what we could do. Now Watergate does not bother me. Does your conscience bother you, tell the truth. Sweet home Alabama where the skies are so blue. Sweet home Alabama, Lord, I'm coming home to you. Now Muscle Shoals has got the Swampers and they ve been known to pick a song or two. Lord, they get me off so much, they pick me up when I'm feeling blue, now how about you. Sweet home Alabama where the skies are so blue. Sweet home Alabama, Lord, I'm coming home to you. Sweet home Alabama where the skies are so blue. Sweet home Alabama, Lord, I'm coming home to you. |
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Post by kevin on May 24, 2003 10:58:33 GMT -5
Sweet Home Alabama.....It's pretty hard to imagine an African-American singing that song. In fact, it's hard to imagine anyone not in a pickup truck with a Confederate flag in the back window singing that song:)
Ruben.....does anyone else think that when he sings in the upper range of his voice that he sounds like Aaron Neville?
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Post by rocky on May 26, 2003 7:13:27 GMT -5
A few posts earlier spun had mentioned the great Luther Vandross, well the news is still not good as he remains in a coma from a stroke he suffered over a month ago. He had just released a new album 'dance with my father' which he had dedicated to his dad, who had passed away when Luther was very young. C'ome back Luther, we are praying for you.  |
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Post by René on Jan 2, 2004 15:30:36 GMT -5
i just heard about the world idol competition..that Dutch dude came in last, and a Swedish dude won  |
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Post by NattyDread on Jan 4, 2004 6:21:11 GMT -5
sorry, but: WHO CARES?  |
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Post by René on Jan 5, 2004 13:49:46 GMT -5
indeedio
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Post by Powdered Toast Man on Jan 20, 2004 0:07:05 GMT -5
American Idol... Canadian Idol... World Idol... It's all a flaming pile of dog crap.
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danko jones, danko jones...friendly neighbourhood danko jones.
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